1. A 67-year-old CKD 5 patient due to MPGN nephropathy received an offer from his 51-year-old living donor (family friend). She is on the waiting list for 8 years (highly sensitised with cRF (cPRA) of 97% due to pregnancy and blood transfusion. Her crossmatch results are shown below. Please answer the following:

  • Comment on the report?
  • What do you think about the DR mismatch shown in this report?
  • Explain the defaulting in HLA A locus
  • Would you accept the offer?
  • If yes, how would you manage his immunosuppression?
  • If no, what are the other options?
 
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Ala Ali
Ala Ali
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3 years ago

Dear all, Check these

  • HLA: Basic Terminology and Nomenclature

https://www.aacc.org/-/media/Files/Transcripts/Pearls-of-Laboratory- Medicine/2018/Slides/HLA-Basic-Terminology-and-Nomenclature-Tumer-Slides.pdf?la=en&hash=9844046EF5BF67763B67E7ABD060600C11620DCE

  • HLA Compatibility in organ transplantation NDT (2001) 16 suppl 6: 147-149

These delineate the HLA basics and the importance of broad and split typing

Last edited 3 years ago by Ala Ali
Abdul Rahim Khan
Abdul Rahim Khan
Reply to  Ala Ali
3 years ago

Dear Dr Ala this link is not working can you kindly upload again Regards

Huda Al-Taee
Huda Al-Taee
Reply to  Ala Ali
3 years ago

thank you

Professor Ahmed Halawa
Professor Ahmed Halawa
Admin
3 years ago

Dear All
None of you got the match right
there is split at HLA A locus, default at HLA A locus and another split at HLA DR locus

Dawlat Belal
Dawlat Belal
Admin
Reply to  Professor Ahmed Halawa
3 years ago

Dear all:
As we concluded 2 days ago in rely to Sherif Yusuf that this issue is due to non DSA antibodies as the Recipient has antibodies
To which the donor has no corresponding antigen.
Probably due to some previous sensitisation process.
NOW as practicing TRANSPLANT NEPHROLOGISTS you need to answer the following:

1.What is the impact of these antibodies are they a benign issue?

  1. If you decide they need a desision what will you do in the context of management of this highly sensitised recipient.
Sherif Yusuf
Sherif Yusuf
Reply to  Dawlat Belal
3 years ago

Non-DSA or third-party antibodies are antibodies that develop to HLA antigens that are not donor-specific.

Non-DSA can develop due to sensitization to HLA antigens either from previous blood transfusions, pregnancy, or previous transplant.

Sensitization can affect transplantation either before or after transplantation

Highly sensitized transplant recipients are extremely difficult to find a suitable donor with a negative crossmatch (1), and this may affect the plan by accepting relatively incompatible donor kidneys which will be better than putting the patient for a long time on the waiting list, and some recommend desensitization (although its effect is debatable) to remove these HLA antibodies and increase the chance of transplantation.

Increased sensitization as measured by PRA is correlated with graft survival, one study found that 10 years graft survival of 44% in highly sensitized transplant recipients with PRA ≥98 percent compared to 52% in non sensitized patients. (2)

Detection of DSA is well-known risk factor for reduced graft survival and is associated with a 10-fold increase in the risk of graft loss as it is associated with ABMR which is the commonest cause of graft loss . (3)

The significance of third party non DSA on graft survival is not clear, a study addressing the relation between PRA and graft survival in 4000 transplant recipients who received HLA identical grafts from siblings found that 10 years’ graft survival was 72% in patients with 0 PRA, 63% in patients with PRA between 1-50% and 56% in patients with PRA > 50% (4)

Moreover, the presence of HLA antibodies including the third party was found to increase the risk of DGF and the risk of death-censored graft loss increased markedly in patients with DGF if HLA antibodies are present pre-transplantation including non-DSA (5)

On the other hand, one study found no correlation between pre-transplant PRA due to non DSA HLA antibodies and graft survival (6) and another study found that only DSA (and not third party HLA ) has significant impact of the incidence of DGF (7)

So … transplanting patients with high cPRA even if there is no DSA may be difficult as there is a low probability to find a suitable donor and associated with a higher probability of ABMR, DGF and subsequently reduced graft survival thus they should be considered as high-risk transplantation and may indicate aggressive immunosuppression with desensitization (which is not my opinion) may provide an option in order to find a suitable donor

REFERANCES

  1. Cecka JM, Cho L. Sensitization. In: Clinical Transplants 1988, Terasaki PI (Ed), UCLA Tissue Typing Laboratory, Los Angeles 1989. p.365
  2. Redfield RR, Scalea JR, Zens TJ, et al. The mode of sensitization and its influence on allograft outcomes in highly sensitized kidney transplant recipients. Nephrol Dial Transplant 2016; 31:1746.
  3. C. Wiebe, I. W. Gibson, T. D. Blydt-Hansen et al., “Evolution and clinical pathologic correlations of de novo donor-specific HLA antibody post kidney transplant,” American Journal of Transplantation, vol. 12, no. 5, pp. 1157–1167, 2012.
  4. Opelz G, Collaborative Transplant Study. Non-HLA transplantation immunity revealed by lymphocytotoxic antibodies. Lancet 2005; 365:1570
  5. MorathC,Döhler B, KälbleF, et al. Pre-transplant HLA Antibodies and Delayed Graft Function in the Current Era of Kidney Transplantation Front. Immunol., 26 August 2020
  6. Jun, K.1; Kim, M.1; Hwang, J.1; Park, S.1; Moon, I.1; Lee, M.1; Kim, S.2; Kim, J.1. Impact of Pre-Transplant PRA Level On Renal Graft Survival in Patients With Negative Cross-Match and No Donor Specific Antibody. Transplantation: July 15, 2014 – Volume 98 – Issue – p 463
  7. Perasaari JP, Kyllonen LE, Salmela KT, Merenmies JM. Pre-transplant donor-specific antihuman leukocyte antigen antibodies are associated with high risk of delayed graft function after renal transplantation. Nephrol Dial Transplant. (2016) 31:672–8
Dawlat Belal
Dawlat Belal
Admin
Reply to  Sherif Yusuf
3 years ago

Thankyou sherif for your logic report so one can conclude:
1.If they are present alone eluting them alone is controversial.
2 As in the case above who is highly sensitized and you decide to proceed they will be dealt with among other antibodies during PE and strong IS.
Well done

Dawlat Belal
Dawlat Belal
Admin
Reply to  Dawlat Belal
3 years ago

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Ben Lomatayo
Ben Lomatayo
Reply to  Dawlat Belal
3 years ago
  • Non-DSA antibodies, antibodies directed to non-HLA antigens
  • Evidence from studies on identical twins raises the possibility of poor graft outcomes associated with non-DSA antibodies
  • Desensitization will is the way to go ; PP,IVIG,Rituximab, methy pred
Mahmud Islam
Mahmud Islam
Reply to  Professor Ahmed Halawa
3 years ago

http://hla.alleles.org/antigens/broads_splits.html

DR13, DR14 are splits of DR6
HLA 31, HLA 32 are splits of HLA-19

Nazik Mahmoud
Nazik Mahmoud
2 years ago

Comment on the report?
ABO compatible donor and recipient
HLA 120 ( broad) 121 (split)
Non DSA antibodies with high MFI
Positive T and B cells cross match by FCXM
But negative autocrossmatch

What do you think about the DR mismatch shown in this report?
There is one mismatch by split technique

Would you accept the offer?
Yes I will accept this offer because the patient is highly sensitised with cPRA of 97% she is on waiting list for long time
But she should be aware about early antibody mediated rejection

If yes, how would you manage his
immunosuppression?
Induction by ATG with triple immunosuppressive medication as maintenance (Tac,MMF and predinsilone)

If no, what are the other options?
Paired exchange
Deceased donor

Wee Leng Gan
Wee Leng Gan
2 years ago

1) Comment on the report?
ABO compatible.
HLA split at A and DR locus.
HLA default A locus.
FXCM high.
Positive DSA with high MFI.
Conclusion : High immunological risk

2) What do you think about the DR mismatch shown in this report?
DR split mismatch. Indicate poor graft outcome.

3)Explain the defaulting in HLA A locus
HLA A 80 is a rare antigen which defaulted to A1

4)Would you accept the offer?
Yes but after counseling patient the relative high risk of allograft rejection and possible complications following intensified desensitization protocol.

5)If yes, how would you manage his immunosuppression?
Desensitization with cycle of plasmapheresis and IV IG.
Induction : ATG.
Maintenance : Tacrolimus, MMF , Prednisolone.
Regular monitoring DSA and protocol allograft biopsy if evidence of rejection.

6)If no, what are the other options?
Kidney pair exchange program.
Deceased kidney donor program.

Dalia Eltahir
Dalia Eltahir
2 years ago

·  Comment on the report?Both donor and recipient are sharing same blood so there are ABO compatible , high risk patient with positive cross match and presence of non DSA with significant MFI .high risk of recurrence of MPGN .
·  Broad 120 ,Default 020 ,Split 121 
· What do you think about the DR mismatch shown in this report? DR 13 and DR 14 are split from DR 6
· Explain the defaulting in HLA A locus :It is rare antigen { HLA 80 } to HLA A1
· Would you accept the offer?I Would accept this offer if he has not possible donor and because he is waiting for 8 years without being transplanted . 
· If yes, how would you manage his immunosuppression?Desensitization with IVIG PLASMA EXCHAGE and Rituximab .Induction by ATg maintenance by {TAC, PREDNISLONE and MMF }
· If no, what are the other options?Look for pair exchange or waiting list of diseased donor
 

Nandita Sugumar
Nandita Sugumar
2 years ago

Comment on report 
 

  • High risk patient in terms of immunology. 
  • Positive flow cytometry. 
  • Presence of non-DSA antibodies. Donor has no corresponding antigen. This could be because the recipient has been previously sensitized due to pregnancy and blood transfusion.
  • Patient is at high risk of recurrence of original disease that led to kidney failure, i.e., MPGN. 
  • Patient and donor are ABO compatible for transplant 

 
DR mismatch
 

  • Split at HLA DR locus. 

 
HLA A loc
 

  • Split at HLA A locus due to presence of rare antigen 

 
Offer acceptance 
 

  • Yes I would accept this donor because the patient has been waiting for a long time on the transplant list and is highly sensitized and may not get more suitable donors in the near future. With the chances being less of a better match, I would desensitize the patient – IVIG, rituximab, plasmapheresis for a good outcome post transplant. 

 

Management of immunosuppression 
 

  • ATG induction 
  • Tacrolimus, MMF, prednisone – maintenance 

 
Other options 
 

  • Kidney paired exchange schemes 
  • Deceased donor if available 
Last edited 2 years ago by Nandita Sugumar
Ahmed Fouad Omar
Ahmed Fouad Omar
2 years ago
  • Comment on the report?

High immunological risk, positive FCXM wet cross match presence of DSAs(class 1 and 2),high recurrence rate of original kidney disease(MPGN)

o  ABO compatibility: blood group AB(compatible),RH is not important in solid organ transplantation

o  HLA typing:

HLA A80 is a rare antigen defaulted to HLA-A1.

A31,A32 are splits for the broad antigen A19. DR13,DR14 are splits for DR6.

Broad: 1,2,0

Splits:1,2,1

Dafault:0,2,0

o  Highly sensitized patient(cPRA 97%), primary disease MPGN(high recurrence rate), DSAs against both class 1 and class 2 (RIS 2)

o  Positive current wet FCXM against both B and T cells and negative auto cross match

  • What do you think about the DR mismatch shown in this report?

 No DR mismatches at the broad level and 1 mismatch at split level.

  • Explain the defaulting in HLA A locus

The HLA-A80 is a rare antigen, So, it is defaulted to HLA-A1

  • Would you accept the offer?

I would accept the offer because this is a highly sensitized patient and he is on the waiting list for 8 years. However, this patient requires desensitization with Plasmapheresis , IVIG with/without Rituximab to achieve a negative cross match result.

  • If yes, how would you manage his immunosuppression?

Induction with a depleting agent  (r ATG/Alemtuzumab) then maintenance with Tacrolimus(keep high rough level) , MMF and steroids.

Regular follow up of renal functions, proteinuria, frequent monitoring for DSAs and protocol biopsy

  • If no, what are the other options?

Enroll in Paired kidney exchange program or Wait for more suitable living or deceased donor 

Hamdy Hegazy
Hamdy Hegazy
2 years ago
  • Comment on the report?

ABO: Donor AB +VE, Recipient AB -VE (Compatible as Rh is not associated with solid organ Tx).
HLA mismatch:
HLA A19 (Broad)——> HLA A31, HLA A32 (Split)
HLA A80 rare antigen that is defaulted to HLA A1
HLA DR6 (Broad)——>HLA DR13, HLA DR14 (Split)
Broad antigen level: MM 120, 
Default antigen level: MM 020
Split antigen level: 121
DSA: recipient has DSA against HLA B51 with MFI>4000, and against HLA DR4 with MFI> 3000 which are of high clinical significance.
Crossmatch: FCMX was positive for T and B (DSA against class I) , auto cross match was negative.

  • What do you think about the DR mismatch shown in this report?

HLA DR6 (Broad)——> HLA DR13, HLA DR14 (Split)
By Broad antigens-> there is no mismatch in DR
By split antigens-> there is one mismatch.
HLA DR mismatch has higher adverse impact on graft outcome than HLA A and HLA B mismatches.

  • Explain the defaulting in HLA A locus

HLA A80 is a rare antigen that is defaulted to HLA A1

  • Would you accept the offer?

Highly sensitized patient with PRA:97%, original kidney disease MPGN with high rate of recurrence post-transplant (10-40%), has positive cross match with high DSA. All of the above make me reluctant to accept this offer.
However, other clinician might accept the offer because of long waiting time for almost 8 years.

  • If yes, how would you manage his immunosuppression?

Desensitization: Plasma exchange, IVIG, rituximab aiming for negative crossmatch..
High risk induction immunosuppression: ATG
Augement maintenance immunosuppression: Tacrolimus/MMF/steroids
Regular follow up of graft function and monitor DSAs.

  • If no, what are the other options?

Either 1- Paired kidney exchange scheme
2-Wait for more suitable donor either Deceased or another living donor.

Ramy Elshahat
Ramy Elshahat
2 years ago
  •   Comment on the report?

-Regarding blood group: ABO compatible (RH is not related to solid organ transplantation as it is only expressed on RBC).
-regarding tissue typing: HLA A31,32 are split antigens for HLA-A19 and HLA DR13,14 are split antigens for DR6.also A80 is a rare antigen so it can be defaulting to A1
Accordingly, Mismatch will be 020 (on broad level) and 121 on the level of split antigen, patient has HLAB 51 antibodies which is DSA (donor B51) with MFI 4451 which is significant, FCMX was positive for T & B (explained as DSA is against class I) with negative autoantibodies.

  • What do you think about the DR mismatch shown in this report?

HLA DR13,14 are split antigens for DR6 so, with zero mismatches on broad Antigen and 1 mismatch on a split level.

  • Explain the defaulting in HLA A locus

HLA A80  is a rare antigen and defaulted to HLAA1

  • Would you accept the offer?

If it’s possible to do a CDC DTT crossmatch first if it was positive, I will not accept the donor and I will enroll her into paired kidney donation program. If negative I will accept the donor and I will proceed for desensitization until negative FCXM using 3-5 sessions of plasma exchange followed by 2gm IVIG then rituximab 500mg after 1w to avoid neural fac fragment saturation after IVIG.

  • If yes, how would you manage his immunosuppression?

1-Desensitization protocol desensitization until negative FCXM using 3-5 sessions of plasma exchange followed by 2gm IVIG then rituximab 500mg after 1w to avoid neural fac fragment saturation after IVIG.
2-Induction with ATG 3mg/kg total dose.
Maintenance immunosuppressive (Tacrolimus, MMF & steroid ), DSA frequent monitoring.

  • If not, what are the other options?

to be enrolled in a paired kidney exchange program

Akram Abdullah
Akram Abdullah
2 years ago
  •    Comment on the report?

This pair is ABO  compatible ,, Mismatch  on level of broad 021 & 121 on level of split antigen , patient has DSA , HLAB 51 with MFI 4451 which is significant DSA , & FCMX was positive for T & B & negative autoantibodies .

  • What do you think about the DR mismatch shown in this report?

Zero mismatch on broad   Antigen & 1 mismatch on split one , No DSA( as HLA DR4 is not DSA) , split antigen carry risk of poor graft outcome after TX .

  • Explain the defaulting in HLA A locus

HLA A80   is a rare antigen  which is defaulted to HLAA1.

  • Would you accept the offer?

Quite challenging case as , patient has CKD 5 due to MPGN ( high rate of recurrence ) on waiting list for 8 years due to highly sensitized patient cPRA 97% , patient has DSA against HLAB51 with MFI 4451 & positive cross matching against T & B , I will ask for CDC if it is positive , will not proceed for transplant , if negative , look for channel shift value  if less than 250 , will proceed  with desensitization protocol after counselling the patient pros& cons of the transplant & explain  the high risk of recurrence of the primary disease & AMR post-transplant .   

  • If yes, how would you manage his immunosuppression?

1-Desensitization protocol ( rituximab, IVIG  & plasmapheresis  pre transplant , followed by IVIG & plasmapheresis  sessions post-transplant.
2-Induction with ATG or alemtuzumab
Maintenance immunosuppressive (Tacrolimus , MMF & steroid )  , protocol kidney biopsy & DSA .

  • If no, what are the other options?

This patient has limited options as she was highly sensitized with cPRA 97% , so it is difficult to get cadaveric offer , the other options , searching for other living donor  ,paired exchange program  or staying on the waiting list & eventually will go for dialysis .

ahmed saleeh
ahmed saleeh
2 years ago

* ABO is compatible AB

* HLA match
●Broad : 020
As HLA A 80 is a rare antigen defaulted to A01
HLA A31 and HLA A32 are Broad antigens for HLA A19
HLA DR13 and HLA DR14 Split antigens of HLA DR6
●Split HLA mismatch : 121

*Cross match :
Current cross match is positive for both B and T cells
*DSA screen
Donor specific antibody with MFI 4451 for HLA B51.
Non-DSA against HLA-DRA with MFI 3215

high immunological risk with positive cross match and presence of DSA.

DR mismatch :
DR13 and DR14 are splits for DR6. there is 0 mismatch of DR on broad matching while there is 1 mismatch on spilt HLA matching.

The HLA A80 is a rare antigen, defaulted to HLA A1

patient is a highly sensitized patient (cPRA 97%)with a positive T and B cell FCXM and presence of DSA with MFI 4451.

the patient will require desensitization with Plasmapheresis and IVIG and rituximab to achieve a negative crossmatch before proceeding with the transplant.
Also the patient will require induction immunosuppression and tacrolimus based triple drug maintenance immunosuppression .

1)     Induction therapy: Injection Anti Thymocyte Globulin (ATG) in dose of 1-1.5 mg/kg per day for 4-6 days (total dose 6 mg/kg).
2)     Maintenance immunosuppression: Triple drug therapy including
a.     Tacrolimus: Target trough level of 8-10 ng/ml
b.     Mycophenolate mofetil (MMF): 1000 mg twice a day
c.   Corticosteroids: methylprednisolone 500 mg IV on the day of surgery, followed by prednisolone 1mg/kg/day for 3 days and then 20 mg/day, to be tapered to 5 mg/day over next 6 to 8 weeks.

If no , searching for new donor or Donor Exchange program .

Balaji Kirushnan
Balaji Kirushnan
3 years ago

Comment on the report:

ABO compatible renal transplant is being planned for this recipient and donor…

HLA typing of the donor and the recipient:

Broad Mismatch : 0 2 0 mismatch
Split Mismatch  : 2 2 1 mismatch 

This is due to the following : HLA A 31 and HLA A 32 are a split of HLA 19…HLA DR13 and 14 are split of HLA DR 6

HLA A 80 is a rare antigen and it is to be defaulted to the nearest HLA A 01..so the defaulted HLA is typing mismatch is 121

Cross matching results:

This patient is a highly sensitized due to previous Blood transfusion and pregnancy…the latest flow cytometry cross match is positive for T cell and B cell…The auto cross match is negative for both T and B cells…

The DSA is positive for HLA B51 with MFI of 4451…This is directed against the donor at the split level and the broad level and is highly significant and it is donor specific….I would consider this as a cause of concern and may pose risk of antibody mediated rejection in the immediate post operative period….The DSA against HLA DR4 with MFI of 3215 is not specific for the donor at the split level, so this becomes a third party DSA….

Considering the high cPRA score, the chance of the patient getting a deceased donor kidney in the program would be low…We could proceed with this case after desensitiization with IV Rituximab 2 doses of 375mg/m2, Plasmaphresis and IVIG, triple immunosuppression 2 weeks before transplant…I would repeat CDC,FCXM cross match before the transplant and proceed if CDC is negative and T cell Cross match is negative or low MCS positivity <100…WE need to use Inj ATG as induction agent and maintain the patient of standard triple immunosuppression protocol with Tacrolimus level between 7- 10 mg/ml….I would inform the patient about the risk of AMR in the future due to high sensitization…Patient needs close monitoring after renal transplant in terms of monitoring for DSA and protocol biopsies also

AMAL Anan
AMAL Anan
3 years ago
  • .If no, what are the other options?

* paired kidney exchange donation programme.

AMAL Anan
AMAL Anan
3 years ago
  • Would you accept the offer?
  • If yes, how would you manage his immunosuppression?

– yes, I will accept the offer but with the following plan:
* desensitizations with plasmapheresis , IVIG and Rituximab .
* induction therapy with ATG vs Alemtuzumab.
* maintainance immunesuppression with prednisolone,tacrolimus and MMF.
* follow up tacrolimus level with target (8-10) ng/ml ,monitor DSA and protocol biopsy
* put in mind the primary disease is MPGN carry high risk for recurrence follow up closely with kidney functions proteinura.

AMAL Anan
AMAL Anan
3 years ago
  • .Explain the defaulting in HLA A locus

HLA-A 80 is a rare antigen which is default to HLA-A1

AMAL Anan
AMAL Anan
3 years ago
  • . What do you think about the DR mismatch shown in this report?

-O mismatch when using broad antigen and 1 mismatch when using split antigen .
– the initial collaborative transplant study analysis the major impact on kidney outcome come from mismatches from HLA-DR and HLA-A antigens with little effects from HLA-A.
– Alleic variants of HLA-DR B1 are linked with either none DRB3. or one of gene DRB3 DRB4 DRB5 within DR molecules the B chain contain all the polymorphism.

AMAL Anan
AMAL Anan
3 years ago
  • Comment on the report?

– the recipient and the donor in the attached report are ABO compatible.
– Rh has no role in kidney transplantation.
-HLA mismatch by broad is 020 as HLA-080 is default to HLA A01 and both HLA A31,32 are split antigens for HLA-A19 and. HLA DRB1 13, 14 are split antigens for HLA DRB6.
– so split mismatch is 121.
-If we default for broad it will be 120.
* this patient carry high immunological risk and high risk of recurrence of primary diseases.

AMAL Anan
AMAL Anan
Reply to  AMAL Anan
3 years ago

FCXM showed positive for T cell and B cell- antibody against HLA class 1 or
both HLA class 1and 2.
DSA against HLA51 and HLA DR4

Ahmed Omran
Ahmed Omran
3 years ago

_ Compatible ABO is compatible. Rh matching is not needed because it is not presented on the allograft cells. 
_ HLA-A80 is a rare antigen and it is defaulted to HLA A1. HLA- A32 and A31 both are split of A19. HLA- DRB13 and DRB14 are split of DRB6, so ,broad matching is 1:2:0 and with default is 0:2:0. Split matching is 2:2:1 and with default is 1:2:1. – HLA DR is the most important regarding graft function and survival.
_Positive T and B FXCM, negative auto -cross match .. 
_Highly sensitized patient with c PRA 97%,positive DSA form B51 with MFI 4451 (>2500) and negative for DR4 with MFI = 3215 (<5000).
_ More than 8 years in waiting list. 
Would you accept the offer?
Positive T and B FXCM, in addition to the presence of DSA and high CPRA (97%) make this high risk transplantation; better to defer.
If yes, how would you manage his immunosuppression?
Patient discussion
Desensitization :Plasmapheresis and IVIG. If DSA levels continued to be high with positive cross match, Rituximab to be added. Induction IS with Alemtuzumab and methylprednisolone. Maintenance Immunosuppression with Tac (with high trough level in the first three months), MMF and Prednisone. Close monitoring of DSA level by SAB and protocol biopsy.

If no, PKD program. 

MICHAEL Farag
MICHAEL Farag
3 years ago
  •  Q1 Comment on the report?

o  ABO compatible couple (even matched), while Rh group is not considered in renal transplant.
o  As regard HLA typing:
§ It is presented in split antigens.
§ Mismatch on level of split antigens is 1,2,1.
§ While taking into consideration that:
a)     HLA A 31, 32 are split Ag of HLA A 19.
b)    HLA DR B 13, 14 are split Ag of HLA-DR 6.
c)    HLA A80 is rare Ag (defaulted to HLA A 1.
§ so on level of broad Ag- the mismatch will be 020 on levels on HLA (A, B and DR respectively).
o  As regard cross match, now he has positive both B and T cell cross match that indicates that he has anti HLA class 1 antibodies.
o  As regard positive DSA:
§ Anti HLA B 51 as long as more than 2000 MFI (significant) and mismatch on level on HLA b is 2, so they are DSA.
§ However, anti HLA DR4 is less than 5000, and no mismatch on the level of broad antigens,  they are non DSA or 3 rd party antibodies because The recepient has no Donors HLA antigens, therefor antibodies against DR4 are non DSA against third party. Its essentially due to shared epitop between patients DR14 and DR4 antigens.
.
§ So he is highly sensitized recipient.
 

  • Q2 What do you think about the DR mismatch shown in this report?

·       It is zero at level of broad Ag.
·       1 at level of split Ag.
·       Presence of antibodies is non-DSA.
·       However, split Ag variation can still carry risk of poor graft function after transplant (DGF) and worse graft outcome on long term outcome.

  • Q3 Explain the defaulting in HLA A locus
  • ·       HLA A 80 is a rare antigen, which is defaulted to the nearest Ag (to allow transplantation of recipients who have those rare Ag.
  • ·       So it is defaulted to HLA A1.
  • Q4. Would you accept the offer?

 I will accept the transplant but with:
·       Desensitization protocol with PEX, IVIG and rituximab.
·       Strong induction with ATG and pulse steroids.
·       Strong maintenance protocol (triple tacrolimus, prednisolone and MMF).
·       Close monitoring of DSA and surveillance protocol biopsy to early detect AR and mange appropriately.
·       In addition, taking into consideration, the original kidney disease of MPGN (with very high rate of recurrence), so close monitor of creatinine and A/C ratio to detect early recurrence.
Q5. Alternatives:
·       Paired kidney exchange donation.

Theepa Mariamutu
Theepa Mariamutu
3 years ago

Comment on the report?
HLA A 80 is rare antigen will be known as A1
HLA A 31 and 32 are split of A19
HLA B 39 is split of 16
HLA B 51 is split of B5
HLA 13 and 14 are plit of DR6

Broad: 020
Split:121
Default Broad:120
Default Split:221

FCXM showed positive for T cell and B cell- antibody against HLA 1 or both HLA 1 & 2

DSA against HLA51 and HLA DR4

DSA against HLA DR4 is third party DSA as recipient has no DR4 antigen

Would you accept the offer?
If yes, how would you manage his immunosuppression?
This will be highly sensitized transplant (cPRA 97% and DSA)
I would start with desensitization with PLEX and IVIG with or without Rituximab and induction agent will be Thymoglobulin and maintain with MMF,Tac and prednisolone. I would monitor DSA post transplant

If no, what are the other options?
Paired kidney exchange program

CARLOS TADEU LEONIDIO
CARLOS TADEU LEONIDIO
3 years ago
  • Comment on the report?

Here, we have :
– ABO compatible and RH diference is not signicant
– HLA Typing :
Broad : 1-2-0 -because HLA A : A 32 and A 31 are split antigen from broad A19
Split: 2-2-1
P.S.: attention is drawn to the rare antigen A 80
– Crossmatch results:
There was a technical error occurring in T-FCXM positive with B-FCXM negative which was fixed in 2020. So, with both positive we have DSAs to HLA class I or mixture of DSAs to class HLA I and II
– DSA screening:
Recipient has DSA against HLA DR4 with MFI 3215 with low significance because it is below the cut-off point
But, DSA against HLA B51 with MFI 4451 which is close to the cut-off point (5000) becoming important in risk assessment 

  • What do you think about the DR mismatch shown in this report?

In the HLA DR there was the presence of splits DR 13 and DR 14 that belong to the same broad DR 19

  • Explain the defaulting in HLA A locus

Thres is a rare antigen A 80

  • Would you accept the offer?

I would not accept the offer because in addition to the patient being highly sensitized, we also had a high incompatibility of HLA Typing and the identification of DSAs.

  • If no, what are the other options?

Would opt for desensitization with plasmapheresis followed by IVIg and humanized monoclonal antibody

Shereen Yousef
Shereen Yousef
3 years ago

●Comment on the report?
*ABO :The donor and recipient are ABO Compatible with blood group AB ,
The difference in RH is not significant in transplantation.
* HLA mismatch
-On Broad antigen level :0-2-0
As A31 and A32 are split antigen from the broad one A19.
A80 is considered to be a rare Antigen .
Also DR 13 and DR 14 are splits of the broad antigen DR 6.
– mismatch at split antigens level is 1-2-1 

•Crossmatch:
The last FCXM is positive for both T and B cell so there is antibodies to both HLAclass-I and class-II.

•DSA screening:
Recipient has DSA against HLA B51 with MFI 4451 which is high and significant.
Also there is DSA against HLA DR4
But its not donor-specific.

 
●What do you think about the DR mismatch shown in this report?
DR 13 and DR 14 are split antigens of broad antigen DR 6 so no mismatch on broad level .
HLA-DR 5 showes one mismatch .
Mismatch of HLA DR was found to be associated with poor graft survival.

●Explain the defaulting in HLA A locus?
  HLA-A80 is a rare antigen so recipient how has this antigen are considered to have the nearst Ag HLA- A1
●Would you accept the offer? ●how would you manage his immunosuppression?
The patient is highly sensitized with high MFI against DSA
So i prefer to look for another more matched doner or paired kidney exchange .
If not available we will do desensitization with
Plasma Exchange + IVIG + Rituximab until crossmatch becomes negative then induction with ATG AND Maintenance on triple immunosuppression( MMF + prednisolone  + Tac).
Follow up of DSA 1,3,6,and 12 months posttransplantation.
●what are the other options?
Paired kidney exchange program

kumar avijeet
kumar avijeet
3 years ago

1.ABO compatible
Broad HLA mismatch-0:2:0
Split HLA mismatch-1:2:1
FCXM positive for both T and B cell.
2.DR mismatch will produce denovo Ab which
will decrease graft survival.
3.HLA A80 is a rare Ag which defaulted to HLA
A1.
4.Yes i ll accept tx if CDC XM is negative.
5.I ll do tx with desensitization with plasma
exchange and ivig and induce with ATG and
Maintainance triple immunosuppression and
Close monitoring of dsa.
6.if no tx,then go for paired exchange and
continue hd.

Ban Mezher
Ban Mezher
3 years ago

ABO compatible donor & recipient
Tissue matching shows: Broad 020, split 221( HLA19 split into HLA 31 & 32, HLA DR6 split into DR13 & 14) & default 120
FCXM was positive only for auto antibodies (Cells), but subsequent cross match became positive for T cells ( negative auto antibodies). Last crossmatch was positive for both T & B cells with positive DSA against HLA class I & II in addition to high PRA ( recipient highly sensitized).
Because DR4 antigen is not available so antibodies against DR4 are more likely to be non DSA.Also DR antigen had split (DR13 & DR14 are split from DR6) which had high risk of rejection & associated with poor graft survival.
HLA A80 is the least common antigen & almost exclusively found among African patients so it defaulted to HLA-A1.
This patient is highly sensitized with high HLA mismatch with his donor, but because of long vintage of hemodialysis & high PRA his chance to have more compatible donor is difficult. So if the recipient accept the risk of this donor, yes I will precede for transplantation with desensitization ( PP+ IVIG & rituximab), induction with T cell depleting agent & maintained on triple ( CNI, MMF & steroid) immunosuppressants, with close monitoring of DSA.
If the patient didn’t accept this donor, he can be enrolled in paired exchange program.

Esmat MD
Esmat MD
3 years ago
  • Comment on the report?

This cross-match report is ABO compatible, although there is Rh difference, it is not clinically relevant to histocompatibility barrier.
There are 111 split mismatches and 120 broad mismatches.
The A32 and A31 are splits of A19.
B39 is split of the B16 and B51 is split of B5.
DR13 and DR14 are split of DR6.
The allele of DR4 is DRB1 and it is in DR 53 public epitope.

  • What do you think about the DR mismatch shown in this report?

This cross-match demonstrates mismatches in the splits of DR6 at the DRB1 region, not DR4 mismatch. DR4 mismatch in this case is at the DRB5 region. As a result, the anti HLA DR4 antibody in this case is a non-DSA antibody and should not be considered as a risk factor for rejection.
(All HLA DR types have the DRB1 gene and some contain additional DRB genes, DRB3, DRB4, and DRB5, which form a second cell surface heterodimer.
HLA DR mismatch is an independent risk factor for de novo DSA formation and T cell mediated rejection, especially in elderly kidney transplant recipients. Two mismatched at HLA DR indicate high immunologic risk in kidney transplantation. thus, it is recommended using induction therapy with lymphocyte depleting agents such as ATG.)

  • Explain the defaulting in HLA A locus

HLA A1 and HLA 80 are in the same cross reactive group CREG: A1c
Thus, they consider the same broad antigens: 020 broad mismatch.

  • Would you accept the offer?

It depends on the possibility and accessibility of Kidney paired donation (KPD).

  • If yes, how would you manage his immunosuppression?

The recipient is highly sensitized and this transplantation with multiple HLA mismatch and high level of DSA against HLA B51 is correlated with poor graft survival and need for desensitization. (Although a different cut off level for MFI has been reported in different laboratories. For class I, MFI more than 2000, and for class 2, MFI more than 5000 can be considered).
 
If KPD is not possible or long waiting time for KPD, I will accept this donation and I will use the desensitization protocol before kidney transplantation (combination of IVIG, plasmapheresis, and Rituximab). I will prescribe lymphocyte depleting antibodies (Thymoglobulin or Alemtuzumab) and pulse of methyl prednisolone as an induction therapy and tacrolimus, MMF, and prednisolone for maintenance therapy.

  • If no, what are the other options?

Joining to the KPD program to find the best donor is another option.
 
 

mai shawky
mai shawky
3 years ago

·       Q1. The provided report shows:
o  ABO compatible couple (even matched), while Rh group is not considered in renal transplant.
o  As regard HLA typing:
§ It is presented in split antigens.
§ Mismatch on level of split antigens is 1,2,1.
§ While taking into consideration that:
a)     HLA A 31, 32 are split Ag of HLA A 19.
b)    HLA DR B 13, 14 are split Ag of HLA-DR 6.
c)    HLA A80 is rare Ag (defaulted to HLA A 1.
§ so on level of broad Ag- the mismatch will be 020 on levels on HLA (A, B and DR respectively).
o  As regard cross match, now he has positive both B and T cell cross match that indicates that he has anti HLA class 1 antibodies.
o  As regard positive DSA:
§ Anti HLA B 51 as long as more than 2000 MFI (significant) and mismatch on level on HLA b is 2, so they are DSA.
§ However, anti HLA DR4 is less than 5000, and no mismatch on the level of broad antigens, so they are non DSA or 3 rd party antibodies.
§ So he is highly sensitized recipient.
Q2. about DR mismatch:
·       It is zero at level of broad Ag.
·       1 at level of split Ag.
·       Presence of antibodies mostly non-DSA.
·       However, split Ag variation can still carry risk of poor graft function after transplant (DGF) and worse graft outcome on long term outcome.
Q3. Default HLA A?
·       HLA A 80 is a rare antigen, which is defaulted to the nearest Ag (to allow transplantation of recipients who have those rare Ag.
·       So it is defaulted to HLA A1.
Q4. I will accept the transplant but with:
·       Desensitization protocol with PEX, IVIG and rituximab.
·       Strong induction with ATG and pulse steroids.
·       Strong maintenance protocol (triple tacrolimus, prednisolone and MMF).
·       Close monitoring of DSA and surveillance protocol biopsy to early detect AR and mange appropriately.
·       In addition, taking into consideration , the original kidney disease of MPGN (with very high rate of recurrence), so close monitor of creatinine and A/C ratio to detect early recurrence.
Q5. Alternatives:
·       Paired kidney exchange donation.

Ibrahim Omar
Ibrahim Omar
3 years ago

Comment on the report?

  • this pair is ABO compatible.
  • Broad antigens mismatch … 021
  • the last cross matching with flow cytometry was on 30-1-2020 and it was +ve for both T and B-cells.
  • the recipient has DSA with a significantly high titre for both HLA B51 and HLA DR4
  • the recipient is highly sensitized with c PRA of 97%

What do you think about the DR mismatch shown in this report?

  • there is a split mismatch at HLA DRB1 and HLADRB5

Explain the defaulting in HLA A locus

  • HLA A80 is a default antigen as it is a dysfunctiong gene.

Would you accept the offer?
If yes, how would you manage his immunosuppression?

  • desensitization protocol with plasmapharesis/immunoadsorption plus IVIG or Rituximab.
  • Induction therapy with pulse steroids and ATG.
  • maintenance immunosuppression with Tacrolimus+MMF+steroids.
  • frequent DSA monitoring
  • protocol biopsy

If no, what are the other options?

  • applying for the national paired exchange program for a suitable graft.
  • maintenance HD
Zahid Nabi
Zahid Nabi
3 years ago

Broad without defaulting will be 020
Broad with defaulting will be 120
Split 121 with the fault and 221 after default
DR13 and 14 are splits of DR6 so it’s acceptable
A80 is a rare Ag and can be defaulted to A1
I would accept this offer if there is no chance of a paired exchange programme but would require desensitization with Plex and Rituximab
Induction with ATG and triple immunosupression with follow up DSA levels

Asmaa Khudhur
Asmaa Khudhur
3 years ago

Comment on the report?
Donor-recipient pair is ABO compatable
Broad HLA mismatch 0.2.0
Split HLA mismatch 1.2.1
HLA A80 is a rare Ags
It’s defaulted.
New positive crossmatching to both T cells and B cells
Mean presence of antibodies to class I and class II HLA antigens.
FCXM auto is positive for T cells

DSA against HLA B51 with MFI 4451 (high ) donor-specific
DSA against HLA DR4 not donor-specific 

What do you think about the DR mismatch shown in this report?

DR 13 and DR 14 are splits of DR 6

Explain the defaulting in HLA A locus:
HLA A80 is a rare Ags so it’s defaulted to A01

Would you accept the offer?
As the survival rate for her will be better if she do transplantation even with this high risk, than if she stay on hemodialysis, so I will accept this offer.

If yes, how would you manage his immunosuppression?
Desensitization by PLEX , IVIG , and Retuximab
Induction by ATG and high dose methylprednisolone
Maintenance by triple IS
Close follow up by RFT, protocol biopsy and DSA monitoring.

If no, what are the other options?
Either wait for more compatable donor or engagement with the paired kidney donor program.

Sahar elkharraz
Sahar elkharraz
3 years ago

* Comment on the report?
Patient highly sensitised because previous exposure to pregnancy and blood transfusion
patient has ABO computable and she has cPRA 97%
flocytometry strong positive for T cell
circulating DSA for HLA B5 & HLA DR 4 high.
* Explain the defaulting in HLA A locus?
there’s matching of HLA loci , HLA 32, 31 splits are broad of HLA A 19
split of 80 are rare antigen.
* What do you think about the DR mismatch shown in this report?
HLA DR 13, 14 are spilts of broad DR6.
* Would you accept the offer?
This offer can accepted for transplant
* If yes, how would you manage his immunosuppression?
patient need high sensitised anti rejection protocol
induction with Iv ATG and pulse therapy of steroid and plasma exchange to remove DSA
Maintenance therapy are low dose steroid and MMF and Tacrolimus
* If no, what are the other options?
if this not offer for transplant:
Looking for another compatible donor or Donor paired exchange program.

Mahmud Islam
Mahmud Islam
3 years ago

The donor and recipient are ABO compatible, here the RH positivity is not important as this is not presented in kidney tissue

we have 221 mismatch at the broad level while 120 mismatch the split level

DR13, DR14 are splits of DR6
HLA 31, HLA 32 are splits of HLA-19
historically the FCXM of B is negative but in the last test we have both B& T FCMXM which is mainly due to sensitization, we now have antibodies to both class I and class II
we have DSAs against HLA B51 and DR4 both are with a significant level

this is very high risk; only can proceed if this is an obligation.
seems to be obligatory as this is an unrelated donor (maybe no suitable related donor available)

taking this in mind we may proceed with transplantation weighing the Irish of remaining on dialysis after explanation of risks to both donor and recipient

In preparing for transplant it is reasonable to turn the crossmatch o negative by plasmapheresis to remove antibodies followed by depleting agent (Rituximab available for B cell depletion), induction with ATG followed by high dose maintenance triple regimen (TAC/MMF/MP)

Dawlat Belal
Dawlat Belal
Admin
Reply to  Mahmud Islam
3 years ago

Broad is 020 without the default but120 with default
Split is121. Without default.
You can revise my reply to
Ben Lomatayo for the HLA match
Sherif Yusuf for Default.

manal jamid
manal jamid
3 years ago

DR4 antibody is DSA despite the recipient and donor has no DR 4 in thier HLAtypin but most probably its due corssreactive group (CREGS)
due to shared epitop between donor DR14 and DR4 antigens.
Sorry I meen the donor DR 14

manal jamid
manal jamid
3 years ago

DR4 antibody is DSA despite the recipient and donor has no DR 4 in thier HLAtypin but most probably its due corssreactive group (CREGS)
due to shared epitop between patients DR14 and DR4 antigens.

Dawlat Belal
Dawlat Belal
Admin
Reply to  manal jamid
3 years ago

Thankyou Manal as you mentioned the patient also has no DR4 antigen
what if he has?
Then they will be auto antibodies detected by the auto crossmatch.

Mohamed Ghanem
Mohamed Ghanem
3 years ago

Comment on the report?
The donor-recipient pair has the following characteristics:
First:    ABO: Compatible AB (need to Know Subgroups A1B or A2B )
Secondly :    HLA mismatch:
** Broad:0-2-0
A31 and A32 are split from A19
A80 is a rare Antigen
DR 13 and DR 14 are splits of DR 6

** Split :
1-2-1
as A80 is rare Ag 

Third: Crossmatch:
now  positive for both T and B cell
mean presence of antibodies against both Class I and Class II Ag

Fourthly: DSA screening:
DSA against HLA B51 with MFI 4451 (high ) donor-specific
DSA against HLA DR4 not donor-specific 
 
What do you think about the DR mismatch shown in this report?
Broad is 0 mismatch as DR 13 and DR 14 are splits of DR 6
Split is 1 mismatch
 
Explain the defaulting in HLA A locus?
  HLA-A80 is a rare antigen
: Would you accept the offer
It needs a wise decision as high risk of rejection 
So if there is paired Kidney transplantation program >> it’s preferred to be included
If Not we can proceed due to the long waiting period and hoping for better survival  after intense desensitization protocol with ( Plasma Exchange + IVIG + Rituximab )

with the planning of  heavy induction including ( ATG + high dose methylprednisolone )
with Maintenance  : ( MMF + prednisolone  + Tacrolimus with keeping high level

Protocol for close monitoring of the graft function and early detection of rejection

1-Biopsies Protocol
2-DSA
If not, what are the other options
Paired kidney exchange program

Dawlat Belal
Dawlat Belal
Admin
Reply to  Mohamed Ghanem
3 years ago

Exellent
can you please reply to my above question if you will proceed with this Tx.

Abdullah Raoof
Abdullah Raoof
3 years ago

1-  Comment on the report?
This is HLA typing and crosssmatch of a potentialdonor and recipient .
ABO : compatible
Broad M : 1 2 0  missmatch
Split M  : 2 2 1 mismatch  ( AS HLA 31 – 32 are split of HLA A 19 AND HLA    
                                             DR 13 – 14 are split of HLA DR 6 )
HLA A 80 is a rare Ag which can be defaulted to HLA 01 ( default 1 2 1 )
FCXM : is positive ( last test ) for both T and B cells
FCXM : auto FCXM is negative for both B and T cells .
DSA +ve for
 HLA B51 with MFI 4451 and
HLA DR4 with MFI 3215 .

2-   What do you think about the DR mismatch shown in this report?
THERE IS HLA DR  1 broad mismatch and 0 split mismatch because HLA DR 13 and 14 are split of HLA DR 6 .
HLA DR is important in kidney transplantation as complete (2) mismatch has bad frat outcome .  
3-   Explain the defaulting in HLA A locus
The  HLA A      is a rare  Ag which means can be defaulted to Ag.

4-   Would you accept the offer?
Yes , I will accept the offer because patient has a high c PRA which means that this patient may not get better matched offer in near future . but keep in mind that this patient is moderate to high risk ,it needs to explain the risk of rejection in these patients .
5-   If yes, how would you manage his immunosuppression?
This patient  has  significantly  high DSA –MFI   above < 3000  ( although the cut off value is lab dependent ) means that this patient needs plasma phresis before induction .
Induction : ATG + methyl prednisolone .
Maintenance therapy : prednisolone +tacrolimus +MMF .
Monitoring DSA
Protocol biopsy .
6-   If no, what are the other options?
Paired exchange or waiting for anew dodnor offer

Dawlat Belal
Dawlat Belal
Admin
Reply to  Abdullah Raoof
3 years ago

Thankyou your match is correct as you included the default straight away.
what is your comment about the DR4 antibodies.
IT is true they are called in the given report as DSAs but the fact is they are not Specific to this Donor so they are NON DSAs better called THIRD PARTY DSAs.

Nazik Mahmoud
Nazik Mahmoud
3 years ago

Comment on the report?
ABO compatible
HLA mismatch is 221(split)
020(broad)
Positive FCXM for both T and B lymphocytes which became negative after autocrossmatch
With DSA to class 1 and 2

What do you think about the DR mismatch shown in this report?
One DR mismatch in DRB1
Explain the defaulting in HLA A locus
Because it is rare antigen
Would you accept the offer?
This high immunological risk , should do desensitization with plasmapheresis and rituximab

If yes, how would you manage his immunosuppression?
ATG induction after desensitization and maintenance with triple therapy Tac,MMF and predinsilone
If no, what are the other options?
Paired exchange

Dawlat Belal
Dawlat Belal
Admin
Reply to  Nazik Mahmoud
3 years ago

correct answer ,you included the default with the split match you need to mention that to fit the required answer in the above question offered with the scenario.
What about the DR4 antibodies.!

Nazik Mahmoud
Nazik Mahmoud
Reply to  Dawlat Belal
3 years ago

It could be due to alloimmunization with such history of pregnancies and blood transfusion or non DSA(third party) antibodies because there’s no HLA antigen typing in DRB4
If it is for DRB1 then consider a DSA so the patient need desensitization

Abdul Rahim Khan
Abdul Rahim Khan
3 years ago

 

  • Comment on the report?

As regards ABO compatibility, both are compatible. Rh status is not important.

HLA Typing.- here we can note that HLA A19 has splits A32 and A33. DRb6 has splits DRb13 and DR B14. HLA A 80 is defaulted as HLA A1. Positive FXCM for B and T cells. cPRA is high at 97%. Positive DSA-B51 with MFI of 4451.  DSA  for DR4  with MFI of 3215.

HLA Broad match is 1:2:0  and HLA Split mismatch is 2:2:1

 Would you accept the offer?

This is very high risk patient  with positive DSA, cPRA 97%, Positive FXCM for both B and T cells. I will not offer renal transplant until there is no alternative.

  • If yes, how would you manage his immunosuppression?

As the patient is high risk , will need desensitisation protocol with PLEX and IVIG. If DSA remain still high then I will add Rituximab . Induction therapy with methyprednisolone and Alemtuzumab. Maintenance therapy with Tacrolimus, MMF and steroids. follow up with protocol biopsy and DSA Check

  • If no, what are the other options?

Paired kidney exchange programme

Dawlat Belal
Dawlat Belal
Admin
Reply to  Abdul Rahim Khan
3 years ago

well done
What about theDR4 please reffer to my above reply.

Mohamed Essmat
Mohamed Essmat
3 years ago

Comment on the report?
Regarding ABO both are AB
HLA mismatch
Broad: 1 2 0 (A 31,A32 are split of A19) – (DR 13,DR14 are split of DR6).
Split : 2 2 1
Recent cross match is positive for T and B .
T lymphocytes express only class 1 MHC while B lymphocytes express both classes
so the patient either has anti class 1 alone or anti class 1and 2.
HLA B51 (DSA) while HLA DR4 are not DSA.
Regarding this offer:
cPRA is very high so it is difficult to get a suitable donor and the mortality rate on HD is higher for this patient as well than if transplanted so we will go for the transplant after desensitization (plasmapheresis, IVIG and Mabthera) and achieving a –ve cross match.
Then ATG induction then maintaining on Tac , MMF , steroids.
If no: then searching for another donor ; paired kidney donation program.

Professor Ahmed Halawa
Professor Ahmed Halawa
Admin
3 years ago

Dear All
What do you think about the DSA against DR4 in this scenario?
Is it a DSA or Non-DSA (third party) and why?
NB
The HLA antibodies are against HLA DRB1

Last edited 3 years ago by Professor Ahmed Halawa
Doaa Elwasly
Doaa Elwasly
Reply to  Professor Ahmed Halawa
3 years ago

Possibly a Non DSA (third party)
Because of the extent of possible epitope sharing we cannot exclude epitope sharing as the reason for non-donor specific HLA antibody levels(1)

All DR haplotypes have a DRA gene that encodes the relatively invariant α chain and a DRB1 gene that encodes the β chain of the DR1-DR18 antigens. Some haplotypes carry an additional gene, DRB3, 4, or 5, that encodes the β chain of the DR52, 53, or 51 molecules, respectively. DR haplotypes can be grouped into families defined by the number of DRB genes 
mismatching for DRB1 antigens may also include a mismatch for the antigens encoded by the linked DRB3, 4, and 5 loci that encode DR52, 53, and 51, respectively.
Note that some very rare DR1 haplotypes also have the DRB5 gene. Also, an exception occurs on haplotypes bearing DR7 and DQ9. These haplotypes have a null allele at the DRB4 locus and do not express DR53.) So that a patient with a DR1, DR4 phenotype, who is mismatched with a DR11, 12, 13, 14, 17, or 18, is also mismatched for DR52.(2)

Reference
1-Krishnan NS et al.Behaviour of Non-Donor Specific Antibodies during Rapid Re-Synthesis of Donor Specific HLA Antibodies after Antibody Incompatible Renal Transplantation,Plose one2013
2-Zacchary AA et al. HLA Mismatching Strategies for Solid Organ Transplantation – A Balancing Act. Front. Immunol., 07 December 2016

Wael Jebur
Wael Jebur
Reply to  Professor Ahmed Halawa
3 years ago

The recepient has no DR4 HLA antigen, therefor antibodies against DR4 are non DSA against third party. Its essentially due to shared epitop between patients DR14 and DR4 antigens.

Wael Jebur
Wael Jebur
Reply to  Wael Jebur
3 years ago

Sorry, Donors HLA antigens, typo

Professor Ahmed Halawa
Professor Ahmed Halawa
Admin
Reply to  Wael Jebur
3 years ago

Excellent
You are the first one to explain it properly

Mohamad Habli
Mohamad Habli
Reply to  Professor Ahmed Halawa
3 years ago

I assume that most of us thought that we are dealing with anti-HLA DRB5-04, and not DR4.HLA-DR4 is an HLA-DR serotype that recognizes the DRB1*04 gene products, which is not the case here where both donor and recipients have DRB1*01 DR13 AND 14. So in this case, the antibodies are non DSA.

Last edited 3 years ago by Mohamad Habli
Professor Ahmed Halawa
Professor Ahmed Halawa
Admin
Reply to  Mohamad Habli
3 years ago

Well done

Nazik Mahmoud
Nazik Mahmoud
Reply to  Professor Ahmed Halawa
3 years ago

It could be due to alloimmunization with such history of pregnancies and blood transfusion or non DSA(third party) antibodies because there’s no HLA antigen typing in DRB4
If it is for DRB1 then consider a DSA so the patient need desensitization

Professor Ahmed Halawa
Professor Ahmed Halawa
Admin
Reply to  Nazik Mahmoud
3 years ago

Well done

Sherif Yusuf
Sherif Yusuf
Reply to  Professor Ahmed Halawa
3 years ago

HLA antibodies against HLA DR4 is considered a third party (non-DSA) as the donor has no HLA DRB1 04

HLA DRB1 antigens in the donor includes HLA DRB1 01, HLA DRB1 06 (which split into HLA DRB1 13 and HLA DRB1 14)

So DSA against DR will be one of the following DSA to HLA DR 1, HLA DR 6, HLA DR 13, HLA DR 14

Professor Ahmed Halawa
Professor Ahmed Halawa
Admin
Reply to  Sherif Yusuf
3 years ago

Well done

Asmaa Khudhur
Asmaa Khudhur
Reply to  Professor Ahmed Halawa
3 years ago

The recepient has no DR4 HLA antigen, therefor antibodies against DR4 are non DSA third party. Its due to shared epitope between patients DR52 and DR4 antigens.

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Professor Ahmed Halawa
Professor Ahmed Halawa
Admin
Reply to  Asmaa Khudhur
3 years ago

Well done

Manal Malik
Manal Malik
Reply to  Professor Ahmed Halawa
3 years ago

Regarding DSA against DR4 INTHE SCENARIO?
DR4 is not mention in the scenario but if it mentionh HLA DR Ag has greater alloimmun than HLA A o rHLA B so with high MFI it will result in poor graft out come
Is it aDSA or NON -DSA WHY?
SAB assay for detect DSA pooled panel bead with different HLA class 1 or 2 so that is more specific to DSA against HLA antigens and that why it is not non-DSA (third party)

Amit Sharma
Amit Sharma
Reply to  Professor Ahmed Halawa
3 years ago

The HLA-DR typing for donor is HLADR B1*01, HLADRB1*14

The DSA in recipient is for HLA DR4: MFI 3215 (Antibody against HLA-DRB1*04)

This is a non-DSA (third party) as the donor does not have HLA-DRB1*04

Sahar elkharraz
Sahar elkharraz
Reply to  Professor Ahmed Halawa
3 years ago

it’s Non DSA
it’s may be due to epitope shares between recipient and donor

Ben Lomatayo
Ben Lomatayo
Reply to  Professor Ahmed Halawa
3 years ago
  • Non-DSA , simply donor typing did not show DR4 antigen to have DSA specific to it
AMAL Anan
AMAL Anan
Reply to  Professor Ahmed Halawa
3 years ago

*it considered a non DSA ( third party )
as the donor has no HLA- DR4
If it is for DRB1 then consider a DSA so the patient need desensitization
-So DSA against DR will be one of the following DSA to HLA DR 1, HLA DR 6, HLA DR 13, HLA DR 14.

Dr Ps Vali
Dr Ps Vali
3 years ago

HLA TYPING ANALYSIS:
BROAD ANTIGEN MATCHING: 1:2:0 
(Rationale being: A31 & 32 are the split antigens for A19; DR13 & 14 are the split antigens of DR6)
SPLIT ANTIGEN MATCHING: 2:2:1
DEFAULT ANTIGEN MATCHING: 1:2:1 (Rationale: A80 is a rare antigen and it is equated /defaulted to the nearest common equivalent A1)

DR MISMATCH:
HLA DR 13 and 14 are the split antigens for DR6 and hence apparently seems to be matched if Broad antigen matching is considered.
But Matching at DR has a great impact on the graft outcome and hence split antigen match need to be given weightage.

DEFAULTING HLA A LOCUS:
HLA A80 is a rare antigen and it is equated /defaulted to the nearest common equivalent A1

ACCEPTING OR REJECTING THE OFFER:

  • I will accept if CDC Cross match is negative (NOTE: This patient is highly sensitised as denoted by the cPRA of 97%)
  • I would never contemplate a Renal transplantation if Cross match is positive.
  • If CDC is negative, than the decision depends on Mean Channel Shift (MCS). If the MCS > 250, than this patient will not undergo Tx with this donor but would pursue other potential donors or paired Kidney Donation.
  • If MCS is less than 250, than Relative Intensity Score (RIS) will be calculated. RIS is calculated based on MFI level ( 10 points if MFI for each DSA is > 10000, 5 points for each DSA with 5000 – 9999, and 2 points for each DSA with MFI < 5000). Transplant after desensitisation will be contemplating;ated if RIS is < 17. For this patient, RIS would be 2 (NOTE: In this patient Antibodies against HLA B51 is regarded as DSA but not the antibodies against HLADR4) Therefore desensitisation would be contemplated and then the transplantation with the above said donor.

IF YES, THAN WHAT ABOUT IMMUNOSUPPRESSION:
The patient receives induction with Alemtuzumab preferably ( If not high dose ATG). Further IV Ig and Rituximab will be given with in one week of transplantation. 
Post Transplant 7-14 days of IV Ig would be needed. 
Maintenance Immunosuppression would be with the coneventional Tripple drug immunosuppression (TAC / MMF/ Steroids) – However, TAC dose would be maintained at higher Levels.

IF NO< WHAT ARE THE OTHER OPTIONS:
Would pursue other potential donors or paired Kidney Donation.

Last edited 3 years ago by Dr Ps Vali
Dr Ps Vali
Dr Ps Vali
Reply to  Dr Ps Vali
3 years ago

I wanted to correct the HLA Matching. Kindly correct the concept of my current understanding.

AIM: To calculate the mismatches
BROAD MATCHING (The word Broad indicates calculating the mismatches after ignoring Splits & also taking Defaults into consideration):
0:2:0 mismatches ( A = 80 is defaulted to 1 ; 32 and 31 are the part of a 19 and therefore regarded as the same antigen)
SPLIT MATCHING (defaults entertained as the same Antigens But splits are regarded as separate antigens):
1:2:1 mismatches
DEFAUL ANTIGEN MATCH: ( defaults entertained as the same Antigens But splits are regarded as separate )
1:2:1

I know that my concept is not fully correct. Appreciate your help in teaching me

Last edited 3 years ago by Dr Ps Vali
Professor Ahmed Halawa
Professor Ahmed Halawa
Admin
Reply to  Dr Ps Vali
3 years ago

Well done

Murad Hemadneh
Murad Hemadneh
3 years ago

Comment on the report?
What do you think about the DR mismatch shown in this report?
Explain the defaulting in HLA A locus

  • ABO is compatible. Rh matching is not necessary as it’s presented only on the RBCs not on the allograft cells. 
  • Regarding HLA typing, HLA-A80 is a rare antigen and it’s defaulted to HLA A1. HLA- A32 and A31 both are split of A19. HLA- DRB13 and DRB14 are split of DRB6. 
  • Based on the above, Broad matching before default is 1:2:0 and after default is 0:2:0. Split matching before default is 2:2:1 and after default is 1:2:1. – HLA DR is the most important one for graft function and survival.
  • Positive T and B FXCM, negative auto cross match on the last test. 
  • Highly sensitised patient with cPRA 97%, DSA is positive form B51 with MFI 4451 (>2500) and negative for DR4 with MFI = 3215 (<5000).
  • Long waiting list of more than 8 years. 

Would you accept the offer?
This is a high risk transplantation because of positive T and B FXCM, in addition to the presence of DSA and high CPRA (97%). For that I prefer not to do this transplantation unless there is no other option and the patient accepts the risk.

If yes, how would you manage his immunosuppression?

  • If patient takes the risk, he will need desensitization which I will use Plasmapheresis and IVIG as standard protocol. If DSA levels continued to be high with positive cross match I will use add on therapy such as Rituximab.
  • Induction Immunosuppression with Alemtuzumab and methylprednisolone. 
  • Maintenance Immunosuppression with Tacrolimus with high trough level in the first three months, MMF and Prednisone.
  • Close monitoring of DSA level by SAB and graft protocol biopsy.

If no, what are the other options?
– The other option is Paired Kidney donation program which I prefer for this case. 

Professor Ahmed Halawa
Professor Ahmed Halawa
Admin
Reply to  Murad Hemadneh
3 years ago

Well done

Sherif Yusuf
Sherif Yusuf
3 years ago

i am confused between this case and the previous case presented in the first week -scenario 1, the first week :

mismatch was 222 for split mismatch which is should be 212 (as B48 is a rare antigen faulted as B40 )

For broad antigen it should be 111 (as B48 is a rare antigen faulted as B40 ) and when defaulted it should be121 but actually, it is written in the report 121 for broad and 111 for default

Professor Ahmed Halawa
Professor Ahmed Halawa
Admin
Reply to  Sherif Yusuf
3 years ago

Do not worry about the fine details. We need to understand the principle

saja Mohammed
saja Mohammed
3 years ago

Good-afternoon
my i ask about the significance of HLA -DR4 DSAs with the given MFI levels? this is not related to the donor .
Thanks

Last edited 3 years ago by saja Mohammed
Professor Ahmed Halawa
Professor Ahmed Halawa
Admin
Reply to  saja Mohammed
3 years ago

Thanks Saja
I understand your question now. The match is always done for DRB1, BUT the typing is done for all antigen. DR4 in this case which is DRB1 (4). is considered a third party DSA as well.
I was not planning to dive into this part as I’m focusing on the typing. I will put is as question.

saja Mohammed
saja Mohammed
Reply to  Professor Ahmed Halawa
3 years ago

Thank you prof Ahmed

Professor Ahmed Halawa
Professor Ahmed Halawa
Admin
3 years ago

Dear All
Do we consider DRB3, DRB4 and DRB5 in the match?

Murad Hemadneh
Murad Hemadneh
Reply to  Professor Ahmed Halawa
3 years ago

HLA-DRB3/4/5 are linked to HLA-DRB1. In Renal transplantation there is a diminishing significance of HLA antigen with time because of the immunosuppression.

Several studies suggest that HLA-DRB1 mismatching is particularly deleterious, perhaps because HLA-DRB1 is a marker of closely linked HLA antigen loci, which were not considered (HLA-DRB3/4/5).

Matching of HLA-DRB3/4/5 may be considered in specific patients who have an exceedingly low probability of transplantation, such as ethnic minorities and HLA-DRB1 mismatch. Those should undergo transplantation regardless of HLA-DRB1 mismatch.

Finally Matching for HLA-DRB3/4/5 showed improved outcomes of unrelated hematopoietic stem cell transplantation.

References:

  1. Su X, Zenios SA, Chakkera H, Milford EL, Chertow GM. Diminishing significance of HLA matching in kidney transplantation.  Am J Transplant. 2004;4(9):1501-150815307838
  2. Vu LT, Baxter-Lowe LA, Garcia J, et al. HLA-DR Matching in Organ Allocation: Balance Between Waiting Time and Rejection in Pediatric Kidney Transplantation. Arch Surg. 2011;146(7):824–829. doi:10.1001/archsurg.2011.147
  3. Tsamadou C, Engelhardt D, Platzbecker U, Sala E, Valerius T, Wagner-Drouet E, Wulf G, Kröger N, Murawski N, Einsele H, Schaefer-Eckart K, Freitag S, Casper J, Kaufmann M, Dürholt M, Hertenstein B, Klein S, Ringhoffer M, Frank S, Neuchel C, Schrezenmeier H, Mytilineos J, Fuerst D. HLA-DRB3/4/5 Matching Improves Outcome of Unrelated Hematopoietic Stem Cell Transplantation. Front Immunol. 2021 Dec 14;12:771449. doi: 10.3389/fimmu.2021.771449. PMID: 34970261; PMCID: PMC8712639.
Huda Al-Taee
Huda Al-Taee
Reply to  Professor Ahmed Halawa
3 years ago

The HLA loci DRB3, DRB4 and DRB5, are paralogs of locus DRB1. Thus, they share a significant fraction of their genetic sequence with DRB1. 
While they exhibit fewer polymorphisms than HLA-DRB1, show moderate variability and are only present in a subset of individuals, antibody testing is needed as they are thought to play a role in transplant rejection.

Reference:
Habets Th, Hepkema B, Koperi M, Schnijderberg M, Smaalen T, Bungener L, et al. The prevalence of antibodies against the HLA-DRB3 protein in kidney transplantation and the correlation with HLA expression. PLOS ONE. 2018 Sep.

Wael Jebur
Wael Jebur
Reply to  Professor Ahmed Halawa
3 years ago

DRB1 is the most important, as its associated with strong Anti HLA DSA in incompatable transplant. But HLA typing is usually performed for all.

Professor Ahmed Halawa
Professor Ahmed Halawa
Admin
3 years ago

Dear All
This is the link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPtnjWLhC2U
Also you can log into Prof Ahmed Mostafa lecture I sent to you, it is more simplified

Huda Al-Taee
Huda Al-Taee
Reply to  Professor Ahmed Halawa
3 years ago

Thank you

Tahani Ashmaig
Tahani Ashmaig
3 years ago

☆Comment on the report?
_____________________________
Concerning this pt/ donor report: 
A) They are compatible in ABO  blood group
B)HLA mismatch in ABDR is as follow:
1. Broad: 0.2.0
(HLA A80 is  a rare antigen so, it is defaulted to A1 and A31 ,A32 are splits for broad antigen A19. DR13 and DR14 are splits for DR6).
 2. Split 2.2.1
3. Defaulted: 1.2.0 (A80 is defaulted to A01)
C) FCXM and FCXM auto:
▪︎Serial historical positive T cell TCXM ( due to autoantibodies)
▪︎The last crossmatch is positive for both T and B cell: denoted to DSA for both HLA class I & II antigens.
D) DSA screening:
▪︎DSA for B51 with MFI 4451
▪︎Non-DSA for HLA-DR4 with MFI 3215

☆What do you think about the DR mismatch shown in this report?
_______________________
DR 01 is shared between pt and donor
DR 13,14 split of DR6. So, this a good match

☆Explain the defaulting in HLA A locus
______________________________
The HLA-A80 is a rare antigen, so it is defaulted to the nearest HLA Ag which is A1.

Would you accept the offer?
__________________________
Yes,
☆How would you manage his immunosuppression?
______________________
▪︎Desensitization protocol (Plasma pharesis, IV Ig and Rituximab).
▪︎ Induction with ATG and maintenance immunosuppression( steroids, tacrolimus, and MMF).
▪︎Follow up with: CBC, urine analysis, Tacrolimus level and serial investigations for DSA.
▪︎Follow this pt for recurrence of MPHN nephropathy.

Dawlat Belal
Dawlat Belal
Admin
Reply to  Tahani Ashmaig
3 years ago

Exellent Tahani are you going to consider those non DSAs if yes how in the context of desensitising this R.

Drtalib Salman
Drtalib Salman
3 years ago

Comment on the report?

ABO compatible donor with recipient AB but Rh not .

HLA typing:
HLA mismatch
split : 2 2 1
broad: 1 2 0 (A 31,A32)split of A19, DR 13,14 split of DR6.

Broad defaulted : 1 2 O
.

Flow cross match:
historic cross match positive for T lymph, negative for B lymph
recent cross match positive for T and B .
T lymph contain only class 1 antigen while B lymph contain both class 1 and 2
so historic crossmatch positive for T , negative for B ( either lab error or auto Ab since B lymph contain HLA 1 and should be positive with T lymph) .
but recent cross match positive for both (so patient either has anti class 1 alone or anti class 1and 2.

DSA screening :

Anti HAL B51 MFI 4451 (DSA).
Anti HLA DR4 MFI 3215(non DSA).

What do you think about the DR mismatch shown in this report?

DR 13,14 split of DR6(split Ag in modern era of immunology, in the common broad Ag)

.
Explain the defaulting in HLA A locus ?
HLA80 rare antigen corrected or defaulted to (A1) since it share the same binding IGg site (public epitope).

Would you accept the offer?
for me accept the offer for the following causes :

1-patient highly sensitized so the mortality on HD more than transplant after (desensitization regimen) .
2- c PRA more than 95 so it is difficult to get suitable donor neither with kidney paired donation nor with allocation system (need to search more than 30000 donor ).

so we go ahead for transplant after full explanation for patient the risk and he should accept the risk .

If yes, how would you manage his immunosuppression?

full desensitizing regimen include (rituximab , IVIg, plasma exchange ).
, ATG induction , and maintenance drug ( TAC ,MMF steroid ).

If no, what are the other options?

long waiting list till the allocation system get suitable donor if patient lucky
mean while do desensitization regimen.

Professor Ahmed Halawa
Professor Ahmed Halawa
Admin
Reply to  Drtalib Salman
3 years ago

Thanks, Dr Talib

Reem Younis
Reem Younis
3 years ago

Comment on the report?
-Both donor and recipient are ABO compatible.
-HLA-typing:
-HLA A19 split into A30 ,A31 ,A32,A33.
-HLA DR6 split into DR13,DR 14.
-Broad mismatch:0.2.0
-Broad mismatch(defaulting) :1.2.0 (HLA-A 80 is defaulted to A-1)
-Split mismatch :1 .2 .1
-Historical T/ FCXM was positive while B /FCXM was negative .
-Auto T/FCXM is positive (autoantibodies) and negative.
-Current T and B/ FCXM are positive.
-DSA screening showed DSA against HLA B51/ DR4.
What do you think about the DR mismatch shown in this report?
-HLA DR6 split into DR13, DR 14.
-HLA DR mismatch is associated with poor graft outcomes.
-Explain the defaulting in HLA A locus
HLA-A 80 is a rare antigen and defaulted to A1
Would you accept the offer?
No, because he is a high-risk patient.
If yes, how would you manage his immunosuppression?
-Desensitization( Plasma exchange +IV Ig±rituximab) of the patient until FCXM becomes negative.
-Induction with ATG, and maintenance immunosuppression Tac, MMF, steroid
-Monitoring of DSA.
-CBC, urine analysis.
-Tac level.
If not, what are the other options?
-Search for another donor or enroll in a paired exchange program.
-Deceased donor.

Dawlat Belal
Dawlat Belal
Admin
Reply to  Reem Younis
3 years ago

Thank you for trying but the correct answer is
Broad 020
Split 121
Adding the default to the broad it will be120
TO understand how this was reached refer to my reply to BAN LOMOTAYMO earlier on.

Dawlat Belal
Dawlat Belal
Admin
Reply to  Dawlat Belal
3 years ago

Sorry Ben Lomatayo

Innocent lule segamwenge
Innocent lule segamwenge
3 years ago
  • Comment on the report?

This recipient and donor are matched for blood group, although have different rhesus factor, this does not matter in transplantation.
HLA matching
The patient has 2;2;2 mismatch for HLA-A,B and DR
HLA-A 80 is defaulted to A-1
HLA- A 31 and 32 are splits A19.
HLA-DR 13 and 14 are splits of DR6
Broad mismatch 0, 2,1
Splits mismatch 1,2,2
There are also 2 mismatches at HLA-C,DQA1, and 1at HLA-DQB1
 
 
Crossmatch
The patient had a positive T flow crossmatch in 2017 likely due to an autoantibody as the auto crossmatch was also positive. This later on became negative on subsequent testing.
The T cell crossmatch become positive afterward and later on the B cell crossmatch also became positive likely due to sensitization.
The patient has DSA to HLA-B51 with a borderline high MFI and DR4.

  • What do you think about the DR mismatch shown in this report?
  • Explain the defaulting in HLA A locus

HLA-80 is a rare antigen which is defaulted to A1

  • Would you accept the offer?

I would accept the offer because this patient is highly sensitized and has a very low chance of receiving a transplant

  • If yes, how would you manage his immunosuppression?
  • If no, what are the other options?

The first option would be to consider the patient for paired exchange with a donor who doesn’t have unacceptable antigens.
The second option would be desensitization to reduce the level of DSA and then induction with either Alemtuzumab or ATG.
Maintenance with triple immunosuppression with prednisolone, MMF and Tacrolimus

Professor Ahmed Halawa
Professor Ahmed Halawa
Admin
Reply to  Innocent lule segamwenge
3 years ago

Thanks
 Broad is not right

amiri elaf
amiri elaf
3 years ago

# Comment on the report?
This leady consider as highly sensetized patient had received kidney from un related donor, with compatible blood group(AB Neg. ,AB Pos.) .There is history of blood trandfusion, pregnancy, high CPRA 97% with positive DSA for class 1(HLA-B 51 with MFI 4451) and non DSA for class11(HLA- DR4 with MFI 3215)
HLA mismatch:
Broad mismatch (0-2-0 ) because HLA – locus 19 split (31,32)
HLA-DR locus 6 split (13,14)
HLA -A 80 is rare Ag so defaulted in HLA- A 01
Default mismatch(1-2-1)
split mismatch (2-2-1)
Crossmatch:
history of positive T- cell due to autoantibodies and without autoantibodies
Current serum showed positive FCXM for both T,and B cells

# What do you think about the DR mismatch shown in this report?
DR 13 &14 splits from DR 6 locus ,so the DR mismatch is (0) on broad and (1) on split mismatch

# Explain the defaulting in HLA A locus
HLA- A 80 is a rare antigen, so we can defaulted to HLA-A 01

# Would you accept the offer?
No,I wouldn’t accept such patient due to higher posibility of AR and chance of recurrence of the original disease (MPGN) after transplantation

# If yes, how would you manage his immunosuppression?
high dose intravenous immunoglobulin (IVIg) or low dose IVIg in combination with plasmapheresis +ATG+ maintenance (Tac ,MMF, steroid)

# If no, what are the other options?
Change to other suitable donor or paired exchange program

Professor Ahmed Halawa
Professor Ahmed Halawa
Admin
Reply to  amiri elaf
3 years ago

Nearly there, but MPGN is not the main reason for rejecting the offer.

Jamila Elamouri
Jamila Elamouri
3 years ago

Comment on the report?

ABO compatible
HLA mismatch
1-broad: 2 2 1
2- split 1 2 1
3- default 1 2 0/ 0 2 0
My Q
Default mismatch must be the list mismatch number, so it must be less than broad mismatch, is not it?
Therefore; A80 defaulted to A1
A 31 & 32 they are one? they are A 19 so A=0 mismatch default and broad
DRB1: 13 & 14 they are DR6 so DRB1 = 0 mismatch broad

Finally Broad 1 2 0
after default 0 2 0
it seems confusing to me yet??

positive FCXM and high c PRA (c pra put him on low chance to get acceptable) deceased donor)
DSA positive with high titer
MPGN may recur post-transplant
the donor is a living donor so there is time to do desensitization therapy for the recipient to render him negative crossmatch
Plasmapharesis+low dose IVIG +Rituximab
the induction will be with ATG + methylprednisolone
Maintenance with Prograf+cellecept+prednisolone
Monitor with DSA and protocol biopsy post-transplant
if not to accept this donor?
I will go to paired kidney donor

for me, I will not accept this donor? taking into consideration the donor risk

Professor Ahmed Halawa
Professor Ahmed Halawa
Admin
Reply to  Jamila Elamouri
3 years ago

Thanks for trying Jamila, you are nearly there, but not quite right. The broad is wrong

Jamila Elamouri
Jamila Elamouri
Reply to  Professor Ahmed Halawa
3 years ago

Default 1 2 0
Broad 0 2 0
How default 3 MM and broad 2
And the aim of default is to decrease MM ! IS NOT IT?

MOHAMMED GAFAR medi913911@gmail.com
MOHAMMED GAFAR medi913911@gmail.com
3 years ago
  • Its a wet flow cytometry cross match , for the same blood group AB
  • Cross match is HLA -A-B-DR (Broad 020 , split is 121, default is 120 )
  • HLA-DR13,14 are split of the broad HLA-DR6
  • The HLA-A80 is a rare antigen, which gets defaulted to HLA-A1.
  • cumaulative DSA(4451+3215=7666) for HLA B51 , HLA DR4
  • positive flow cytometry cross match for both B&T cell

Would you accept the offer?
If yes, how would you manage his immunosuppression?
If no, what are the other options?

This very diificult question, with this scenario, positive cross match and positive DSA , it means very risky transplantion and possibilty of acute rejection is very high,
but considering the pt age and low chances of having a kidney with this high cPRA(97%) i will accept if the paired kidney donation programm is not feasible in this sitauation.

I will give him the chance by using desentization protocol,using plex with iv igg low dose with rituximab and i will go for ATG induction and may go for almetuzmab

Professor Ahmed Halawa
Professor Ahmed Halawa
Admin

Well done
As expected

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